The D750 price is competitive but by the time it’s new successor comes, 6D2 price would have adjusted. But hey, for the same price there are better cameras! I have eyes and And I have seen what she has done in DPP with 6D2 raw file. So I'm not sure there is much point in waiting for Canon's FF mirrorless. But man, most people feel they could have done much much better at this pricepoint and with what is currently available. The 6D2 is a low-end FF body. conclusion, you'd have to be a sucker to buy a canon in 2017. with 70 to 80% odd of Pro's using Canon methinx its you who's dreaming... 5D Mark IV and the 5DsR are still monster cameras in 2017. HAHAHA.. For now I will stick to sony, and hope that canon comes out with a mirror-less in a year. I've shot both. Like it's 2010! You’d expect MILC which is supposed to be the future like A7II to do better on direct LCD interface. I'm sorry, but you really cannot evaluate the noise performance of a camera based on a video on Youtube, since the compression of the video will blur quite a lot of the details in the image. Why should I bother if it almost seems like an after thought for the company? Some people love the track, and pushing a car to its limits. We're always expanding our collection of product overview content, and we've just added videos for the Canon EOS 6D Mark II, the EOS Rebel SL2 and EOS M6. It’s pricey now but the price will eventually drop. you persuaded me a777..I throw away all canons and will go for nikon, then my photos will start look correct...than I will underexpose -6EV all photos in default to keep nikon full DR... why exaggerate? Fanboys of any brand are an insult to human intelligence. This just doesn't seem to be 2017 technology. It means more wider dynamic range.. There will always be those who like DSLR's and those who like mirrorless. And now what? They could have given those things but then they would lose money because people would buy the D7500 and not the D500. DP, would it be possible to focus also on highlights and then count the DR steps. http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%205D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%205D%20Mark%20III. 1) no area in lighting zone was clipped. For some people, not the best is actually good enough. The FW updates are a surpise... you never know what fixes they will implement that will negatively impact your system's performance. Yongnuo, makers of lenses, cameras and other photo accessories, has filed a patent for a modular mirrorless camera system. Aiming to save photographers carrying a cable and a charger for every battery they use, this device handles up to four batteries at the same time and can charge at home, in the car and via a USB power bank. My software, Zoner 18, opens the file but I am unable to edit it and I get a pop-up advising me that file type is not supported and to download the latest version of Adobe DNG and set this in Preferences. What has one to do with another? Adding to the problem is Canon's metering system, which tends to underexpose images when there's strong back-light. The camera is obsolete because it doesn't have the top spec is basically anything, yet sells for top spec pricing. Canon's EOS RP is the company's latest entry-level full-frame camera, and it happens to be mirrorless. From the video, we can clearly see that EOS R has better dynamic range than EOS RP and EOS 6D Mark II, while dynamic range on EOS RP and EOS 6D Mark II are more or less the same. Canon EOS R Vs. Canon EOS RP: (Click for large size) Canon EOS RP Vs. Canon EOS 6D Mark II… Price: $779 Most companies would and do do these things to protect their assets. nikon is fine too, miss other features or has some weaknesses. @Samuel C Did you actually read that? However, you're wrong to put the words lack or absence in quotes. The Canon RF 800mm F11's unique combination of telephoto reach, affordability and light weight will likely enable even more people to do the same. 4k has only been avail on the iPhone since the 6s.. The Canon 6D Mark II Has Terrible “Dynamic Range” Right? i love Sony mirrorless, but recognize that if I were shooting in bad weather, a well sealed Canon would be a better bet. That being said I think the fair price point for the 6D Mark III should be $1300. The only reason Canon is still afloat is because of brand recognition from back in the day. Maybe 5DIV sales are not as high as expected ...To cripple the 6D II sensorwise might be a way to "convince" potential buyers to purchase the (outside US too expensive) 5DIV. However, it means if you're processing from Raw at low ISOs, you have much less flexibility in terms of what you can do with the file than we'd expect from a modern camera. Nobody! The new EOS R is a valid first step, offering more serious competition to the Sony A7 series while giving its own customers the possibility to integrate a more advanced mirrorless camera into their arsenal. Insanity! Super Hot – 15% Off Refurbished Canon Cameras & Lenses: EOS R $1223, RP $687 and More ! Archived. The new Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens lets you go wide with perspective control. As you can see, the EOS 6D II begins to look noisy much sooner than the broadly comparable Nikon D750, meaning you have less processing flexibility before noise starts to detract from your images. Exactly. All this seems to me like Canon has segmented its camera range in 2: the effective and expensive professional FF camera > 3000$, and the entry level APSc < 1000$. This is the world of consumer market, you make the choice. That's not inconsistency at all ! The Canon 6D Mark II’s new 26.2Mp full-frame CMOS sensor delivers very good overall performance, achieving a DxOMark sensor score of 85 points to rank as the 5thbest Canon sensor we’ve tested. "My iPhone has been shooting 4K video for years. The 6D mark 1 was a camera and performed well in low light and yielded more than good enough IQ. Canon EOS 80D to EOS 6D Mark II: in the light of the review, should I upgrade? Incredible... Next release, Canon's just going to go full Trump on us. Looking for a Canon 5D Mark II vs Canon EOS R comparison? It's available in Canon EF, Fuji X, Leica M, M42, MFT, Nikon F, Pentax K and Sony E mounts and the first units are expected to ship in January 2021. Take a look. If you are short sighted and can't wait for a few more months then sure by all means get the 6D2 and be stuck with a 10 years old sensor for another 5. mg_k, as i mentioned if you don't like the 6D2 sensor performance, you always have the option to look elsewhere. But that is not a representation of everyone who buys a camera, or a car. Again, I'm asking you. Even if the 6D III finally might have 4 K. I'm pretty sure it will be crippled somehow (e.g. In fact you'll see zero "disadvantages" if you're not going bonkers in editing. It looks and feels like a modern camera. Canon EOS R Vs. Canon EOS RP: (Click for large size), Canon EOS RP Vs. Canon EOS 6D Mark II: (Click for large size). The 65mm T2 completes Vazen's set of anamorphic lenses for the Micro Four Thirds system. DSLR is pretty much at a standstill right now because they refuse to implement new technology and features. Enter 6dm2... well, hmm how to explain and not offend, hmmm...best would be if you spend more time with photography, after couple of years you will find other tnen poor technical characteristic and you will find then 50 or 100 years ago there ware great photographers too. For now, the app is in beta and limited to a handful of Samsung Galaxy smartphones, but as development continues, it's safe to assume support for other Android devices is on the way. There's basically two possibilities here: 1.) Today's gear disputes are ridiculous. In summary, a total idiot. Panasonic gives you a the GX85 including a kit lens for $498, and that shoots 4K 60fps and has 5-axis IBIS!!! Consider only complete and reliable facts before making a judgment or characterization. What I am saying is that the sky will not fall because the 6D2 may not have the dynamic range of the 5D IV. I also think it's supremely unlikely that Canon chose this chip with the aim of limiting DR: it's far more likely they decided to iterate on an existing design, concluding that people had seemed happy with it, previously. I know the D750 is a killer on paper, but I am willing to bet at the end of the day the 6D Mark II delivers more lovely looking pictures - something about Nikon colors and tones I never really liked, extremely hard to get attractive skin tones and the like even in raw. This is an extreme example but it's a photo I'd expect to be able to shoot on other full frame cameras without revealing so much noise. Price: $2,299 #3 Leica CL. If you *DO* care about these features, get a D750, or a 5D4, or a D850. The 5D IV is $2000 more than the 6D2 - of course the IQ should be better than the 6D2. Let's all jump the ship!! Now just wait for D610 or D750 replacement. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Canon will not collapse if they sell a few less 5D4's or 1DX2's. Nikon and Canon Japan both announce delays for upcoming DSLRs, Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN Sample Gallery (DPReview TV), Sigma 35mm F2 DG DN Sample Gallery (DPReview TV), Laowa 15mm F4.5 Zero-D Shift lens sample gallery (DPReview TV). 7-8 hours old.At video time 2:12sec it is important. But I agree with your point that most people won't notice the difference in practice from 6D and 6DII, but if this test is accurate and this is true, I can't support Canon for this miss. The 6D has a resolution of 20 megapixels, whereas the 6D Mark II provides 26 MP. This is about: What you are getting for what you are paying for!!! With a 1.8x squeeze, the lens produces a more pronounced anamorphic effect than the 1.33x lenses offered by Sirui, albeit at a much higher cost. Price: $3,995 # 4 Canon EOS M50. The button placement is a bit flawed as I still have a tendency to hit the AF-ON button constantly when just resting my thumb on the back and I almost never use the touch thing. good luck. The file will then be treated as though it were a DNG. The 100th anniversary edition of Nikon’s D5 has been put back by a couple of weeks, and Canon's 6D Mark II/EF 24-70mm F4L kit in Japan is also delayed. Read the Leica CL review. This suggests a reversion to the level of the original EOS 6D$(document).ready(function() { $("#icl-3690-1001550611").click(function() { ImageComparisonWidgetLink(3690); }); }), even perhaps a bit worse. Nor my GF. I don't get it! as I mentioned before, it's a consumers decision to buy a product, the choice is yours. And, you can easily get a Mustang for less than the Fusion (trim level dependant of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrnqe93OJIUI never shot 6EV underexpose then +6EV in post. Delivers 13.6 stops of dynamic range at ISO 100. Because they want to charge $10K for 4K. This allows you to use a wide range of different lenses for various purposes. Stop and take a breath. Full articulating screen, MP boost, better AF system, DPAF, touch screen, and presto. Canon EOS 6D Mark II Phase One P40 Plus 85. They both get the same exposure in the DPR comparison tests. The 6DII has to compete with those cameras for years to come. Check out the video above and you can download the RAW files here. Dynamic Range is the range of tones that a camera can capture, limited at the upper end by clipping and at the lower end by the noise reaching an unusable/unacceptable level (which is why different sites quote different numbers: they use different thresholds for the tolerable noise level). This is probably why they chose UHS-I card slots when all other camera manufacturers include UHS-II, i.e. But it is no where near being the cream of the crop. You can see the dynamic range comparison in this video. The 12.1EV readout at ISO 100 isn’t as impressive as the incredibly high 13.7EV figure that was previously recorded by the EOS 5D Mark IV, however.". To serve such kind of customer is much harder than serve folks satisfied with phone cameras. One thing though... take the D750 and compare it to the 6DII at properly exposed settings by ISO adjustments. D610 came after 6D but didn’t have GPS/Wi-Fi. Even with average sensor. I think that, considering the strong light that was present in the shot the camera held itself rather well. The upgraded AF system (including the dual pixel), the rear LCD screen and speed is nice. Customers pay me for it and are quite happy with the results so i am fine too. New Lowest Price – Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 Ultra Wide Lens for $246 ! It's turf war. Mirrorless has stayed more or less even with sales, while DSLRs are in a free fall. I have been giving further consideration to recent reviews of the Canon 6D Mark II. Well…. Rishi opinion has indeed weight, but it does not exclude possibility that there is crippling setting in firmware that can be switched. So will the DR performance in low ISO itself influence this camera sell for the masses? The new DJI Mavic Mini 2 includes several notable improvements over the original Mavic Mini, including 4K video, Raw photo capability, and DJI's robust OcuSync 2.0 transmission system. I have researched the Nikon 750 and even though it is several years old it has better dynamic range than either 6D model ( it has a Sony sensor) plus two SD recording slots plus it has a pop up flash. I have a Panasonic G7 and I think it would do just as well. No fireworks, no OOOO or AAHHHH. Tony finds the difference in dynamic range significant between these two cameras, this time in EOS R’s favor. it's a choice, go for Nikon/Sony low end FF for better low ISO DR or 6D2 if other features matter. Canon did the same thing, yet they are the bad ones who should lose their fan base. You're right to say that DR is only an aspect of image quality and, similarly, image quality is only one aspect of a camera as a whole, albeit a fairly significant one. What about 6D sensor performing better than 6Dm2? The new Canon EOS RP entry-level full-frame mirrorless camera is now officially announced, and it has the the same sensor as the EOS 6D Mark II. Canon sucks at this. I also thought the portal is for photographers not engineers, but keep focusing on technical details if you like, I like photography more. Sony's new Visual Story app for iOS promises event and wedding photographers a variety of useful tools, designed to simplify their workflow and enhance their business. They all give similar conclusions: 6D II matches 10 year old sensor like 6D, 5DII, 5DIII. Best Mid-Range Full Frame Mirrorless: Canon R6, Sony a7 III, Nikon Z6 II, Panasonic S5. And also Canon has not confirmed whether sensor in 6D mark II has on or off chip ADC. The big problem here is that too many people spend too much time analyzing the tech specs of gear and not enough time using said gear. Why do you think Nikon gave the D7500 the D500's sensor and IQ, but stripped it of the D500's AF system, gave the D7500 one card slot and removed the ability to add a grip to the D7500? Dynamic range is the camera equivalent to top speed in a sports car. It fits nicely in the hand. I was hoping that the 6DII would be the camera that would have me switch back to canon. I think they may have conferences and focus groups to converge on the talking points, including blaming photographers. Only if you have absolutely no idea of how either of the chipsets work.... DR matters. TCS says the $749 T7i has better DR than the 6D II...The video is not only 1080p, like it's 2010, it's also very soft... And it is lower bit rate than the 6D's video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNrpuUES3Sw&t=602s. Canon did not deliver on either one of these must haves for me. But I do, when I would have made this picture. http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=33072.360. Dynamic range isn't everything, of course: Canon's Dual Pixel sensors have brought advances in live view and video autofocus that for many people will be every bit as significant as the noticeable shortfall in Raw file malleability. The 6D Mark II has addressed this pitfall head-on in its updated autofocus system. Some sort if miscommunication between marketing and development. You can always compare other models on DxOMark.com . And give the opportunity for skeptics process them all, than compare two of the best. Looking for a Canon 6D Mark II vs Canon EOS RP comparison? EOS 6D Mark II provides a relatively aff… "Nobody's got more dynamic range than we do! So first, can you take part in - on what the world has agreed as - socalled 'reality'? Canon EOS R $ 1,299. But shops here advertise Canon 6d mk ii as "having the most modern sensor". Most are negative. I'm serious. Pulling 2-3EV is doable without making a scene look fake. If it doesn't suit your needs, don't buy it. Jared Polin, a Nikon user is being unbiased until he does his full review of the 6D2 and he is being dragged through the coals by Nikon and Sony fans who are accusing him of being bought off by Canon to be nice to their brand.